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The "myth of the Republic" by Stanley G. Payne

Angel Antonio journalist interview American historian Stanley G. Payne on the myth built around the English Republic by the zapateriles.

Here is the conversation:

"At some point you have denounced an alleged" pact of silence "that historically have prevented debug historical period ...

- This" pact of silence "is another myth . Never was there such a thing. What existed was a mutual agreement to leave history to historians and researchers, with the understanding that no one would try to use it as a partisan or sectarian argument, according to which fulfilled.

At that time there was the least silence from journalists and historians, who published numerous articles and papers on the Civil War and the repression ... A "pact of silence" does not describe the transition, but the performance of some sectors of the left current imposed silence regarding any aspect of history that do not like. Also, in certain respects, the left has broken the agreement of the Transition in arguments-usually using false "history in the party struggle.

"Some criticize the Historical Memory Law stating that it has made a perverse use History, to the point of having accused the PP of being Franco ... What do you think of it?

- But we already started the campaign Felipe Gonzalez in 1993 and is always a temptation, because the PP is dialectically so weak ... As for that 2007 law, a distinction between humanitarian and archaeological, and the political aspect. Those are desirable and fair, this is a partisan attempt to falsify history.

- How does the two legislatures ideologically Zapatero?

- In January 2005, predicted in an interview that Mr. Z would be the worst president the democratic era. Unfortunately, I hit full.

"The Republic was founded after the crisis of 29, which suggested to many that capitalism was dying. Fascism and Communism crowds cheered and large palpable economic "progress in Germany, the USSR, Italy ...

- course, the situation was not particularly favorable for the Republic. But Spain was marching at their own pace. Neither fascism nor communism were important for the Republic, except in the final stage it is already crumbling for other reasons.

And the effects of the Depression hit fairly weak in Spain. Urban unemployment was much lower than in other countries and the economy recovered between 1935 and 1936, until disaster struck the Popular Front. The disaster did not occur because of the situation and the Depression, but because of the English.
In what other country had civil war during the Depression?

- Was the new regime, as urban nature, able to understand the topic, we use the deep-Spain?

- The left wanted to be strong and exclusionary, which succeeded, but that contributed to the disaster. The idea that it could permanently exclude Catholics in political life and government, and maintain a parliamentary system, was a delusion then only possible in Spain.

-Interestingly, the period of social stability and economic improvement of the Republic was christened the "two black" (1933-1935) and corresponds with centrist governments Lerroux ...

- The rights were clumsy and did not take advantage of their opportunities very well but respected the law, which did the left. Even more awkward was the President Alcala Zamora, believing it could "focus the Republic" through their constant manipulation. The effect was the opposite, made it impossible for stability.

-wing hegemony of the UGT and the PSOE promoted the Revolution of Asturias ... Was not that one of the history of the Civil War, because from then everyone believed the lies of the other?

- The policy of the PSOE-UGT between 1933 and 1936 was hugely destructive, the single most important element in the destruction of democracy. Revolutionary insurrection was, of course, an act of civil war but failed. Then there were many opportunities to stabilize the situation and prevent a serious civil confrontation, but were not harvested between December 1935 and July 1936.

- Was there really a pre-revolutionary atmosphere, as always defended the victors of war or peace was possible?

"The war became inevitable until about July 15, 1936, or just a few days before its outbreak. But at that time both the government of Casares Quiroga as the Socialists did not want to help but, directly, lead an army mutiny, with the calculation that this would be weak and easy crushing could consolidate the democratic Republic. It was another of his fantastic and highly destructive errors.

- Can compare two historical moments such fundamental and well-wishers of the twentieth century as they were the proclamation of the Republic and the Transition?

- The creators of the Second Republic wanted from scratch, ignoring history and impose a partisan revenge. Transition of 1976-77 operated in reverse, with the determination to avoid past mistakes and democracy based on consensus. His great weakness was to design loose, somewhat irresponsible, the autonomic system.

- you wanted Zapatero win in the XXI century a war for people today is the war of the grandparents, if not great-grandparents?

- Currently, the Civil War is a living instrument only for some sectors of the left, but can not get much out of their partisan versions as calculated.

Tellagorri (courtesy of blogger Carolvs)



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